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誰(shuí)能翻一下,螺栓螺母相關(guān)

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發(fā)表于 2014-3-26 14:49:18 | 只看該作者 |倒序?yàn)g覽 |閱讀模式
本帖最后由 pengzhh 于 2014-3-26 15:00 編輯 * Q4 g0 r9 I  P

6 n# P; }  d/ M7 C9 x1 jDoes  it matter whether you tighten the bolt head or the nut?                  
Normally it will not matter whether the bolt head or the nut is torqued. This assumes that the bolt  head and nut face are of the same diameter and the the contact  surfaces are the same (giving the same coefficient of friction).  If they are not then it does matter.
                  
Say the nut was flanged and the bolt head  was not. If the tightening torque was determined assuming  that the nut was to be tightened then if the bolt head was  subsequently tightened instead then the bolt could be overloaded. Typically 50% of the torque is used to overcome friction under the tightening surface. Hence a smaller friction radius will result in more torque going into the thread of the bolt and  hence being over tightened.
                  
If the reverse was true - the torque determined  assuming that the bolt head was to be tightened then if the nut was subsequently tightened - the bolt would be under tightened.                  

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 樓主| 發(fā)表于 2014-3-26 14:58:24 | 只看該作者
不好意思,粘貼上去沒看仔細(xì)" M( s* t5 x( T+ Y
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發(fā)表于 2014-3-26 15:06:53 | 只看該作者
Does it matter whether you tighten the bolt head or the nut?      
. I! }4 F* i' u1 r) c* T% N. B/ L緊螺栓或者螺母有什么關(guān)系么             v. [5 e9 Z  p* Z/ d
Normally it will not matter whether the  bolt head or the nut is torqued. 7 C$ j$ n) ]  f7 {" y
一般來(lái)說(shuō)不會(huì)。
) g7 R3 t( q# |; o4 NThis assumes that the bolt head and nut face are of the same diameter and the the contact  surfaces are the same (giving the same coefficient of friction).  
7 M7 D, q. Q' @9 a0 t* g, y$ t8 K! p當(dāng)然這是建立在螺栓和螺母的作用面尺寸相同的假設(shè)之下。(即摩擦系數(shù)相同)
) _* w* }. B/ BIf they are not then it does matter.
' w6 F+ n* {+ M3 m如果不是,緊誰(shuí)就是有影響的。
/ h: X+ p6 o- fSay the nut was flanged and the bolt head was not.
  K9 R4 _4 q9 B9 h. [/ c比如 螺母是帶法蘭的,而同時(shí) 螺栓不帶。4 K" w4 b' P2 M9 r
If the tightening torque was determined assuming that the nut was to be tightened then if the bolt head was                     subsequently tightened instead then the bolt could be overloaded.
% X+ {3 ]: f7 c這時(shí)候,如果實(shí)際鎖緊的扭矩是按 鎖緊螺母需要的扭矩來(lái)決定的,而隨后卻用這個(gè)扭矩 去緊了螺栓,那么螺栓就過(guò)載了1 j& s1 Q0 ^4 f* }/ m/ p

) n1 V" h" g1 z0 ~Typically 50% of the torque is used to overcome friction under  the tightening surface. + d; ^5 _( ?% a% f% T1 O6 _4 C
一般來(lái)說(shuō),50%的扭矩被用來(lái)克服鎖緊面的摩擦
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/ q* L1 C1 \9 P6 J0 BHence a smaller friction radius will  result in more torque going into the thread of the bolt and  hence being over tightened. , {1 W7 I5 ^, p) y
因此,小的摩擦半徑會(huì)導(dǎo)致 更多的扭矩給到螺栓上,以至其被鎖的過(guò)緊了。                 ; C1 j4 x* g3 H
If the reverse was true - the torque determined  assuming that the bolt head was to be tightened then if the  nut was subsequently tightened - the bolt would be under tightened.   , ?5 A% l" p, Y" n- x, T
反過(guò)來(lái)說(shuō)也一樣,如果在那種情況下(即上述螺母有法蘭而螺絲沒有)的實(shí)際鎖緊的扭矩是按 鎖緊螺栓需要的扭矩來(lái)決定的,而隨后卻用這個(gè)扭矩 去緊了螺母,那么螺栓就沒鎖緊。% a+ G$ c. p4 S# ~- w
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高手啊  發(fā)表于 2014-3-26 16:43

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 樓主| 發(fā)表于 2014-3-26 15:31:42 | 只看該作者
非常感謝,沒有很好的理解————If the tightening torque was determined assuming that the nut was to be tightened then if the bolt head was                     subsequently tightened instead then the bolt could be overloaded.- N' J' ~0 H# _6 P7 b4 O( F  S
這時(shí)候,如果實(shí)際鎖緊的扭矩是按 鎖緊螺母需要的扭矩來(lái)決定的,而隨后卻用這個(gè)扭矩 去緊了螺栓,那么螺栓就過(guò)載了——————這句話,所以我糾結(jié)半天,現(xiàn)在好了,你翻譯后我豁然開朗,謝謝

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別客氣。。。下午活兒不忙,來(lái)學(xué)習(xí)學(xué)習(xí),碰到自己力所能及的 就瞎說(shuō)說(shuō)騙點(diǎn)積分 下載東西。。。。  發(fā)表于 2014-3-26 15:56
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 樓主| 發(fā)表于 2014-3-26 16:25:03 | 只看該作者
pengzhh 發(fā)表于 2014-3-26 15:31 & ^1 Z3 @# w" T7 |/ @3 m  Q7 j, V
非常感謝,沒有很好的理解————If the tightening torque was determined assuming that the nut was to ...

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發(fā)表于 2014-3-27 15:25:20 | 只看該作者
這個(gè)貌似太專業(yè)了。。。
$ B5 Q" ?7 Z8 _$ E基本很少用扭力扳手,也就提不到用規(guī)定的扭矩去鎖緊
& u4 J% p% u. `7 @6 y不過(guò)這個(gè)想法真是不錯(cuò),鎖不同部件要求的鎖緊力不一樣,為省力,還是鎖螺栓比較好是嗎
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 樓主| 發(fā)表于 2014-3-27 15:35:37 | 只看該作者
道士3141 發(fā)表于 2014-3-27 15:25 - ?) @2 V- K( X
這個(gè)貌似太專業(yè)了。。。, b+ K' t' D: f' ?. g
基本很少用扭力扳手,也就提不到用規(guī)定的扭矩去鎖緊4 I7 e5 |8 W; C/ [+ n# n- M
不過(guò)這個(gè)想法真是不錯(cuò),鎖不 ...
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其實(shí)看一下螺栓連接的力分配圖就會(huì)發(fā)現(xiàn),摩擦面積的大小導(dǎo)致實(shí)際分配到螺桿的力不同,所以螺栓連接真正得到的扭距就不同。我們公司的所有擰緊 都是 按照扭距來(lái)得
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發(fā)表于 2014-3-31 16:29:09 | 只看該作者
pengzhh 發(fā)表于 2014-3-27 15:35
, l/ w5 F5 Q. T. f其實(shí)看一下螺栓連接的力分配圖就會(huì)發(fā)現(xiàn),摩擦面積的大小導(dǎo)致實(shí)際分配到螺桿的力不同,所以螺栓連接真正得 ...
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專業(yè)啊,以前外國(guó)公司也多次要求裝配部門配備扭力扳手,按要求扭矩去扳,于是就去買了兩個(gè),但裝配部并不熱心用,技術(shù)部門也沒安排專人去指導(dǎo),幾個(gè)領(lǐng)導(dǎo)可能商量了一下,終于還是不了了之了! H  k1 G8 F7 g& Y4 P4 q8 v; E
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發(fā)表于 2017-9-18 14:37:21 | 只看該作者
真是藏龍臥虎啊

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