洋務(wù)運(yùn)動(dòng)和山寨工業(yè)

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以前的國內(nèi)近代史，有一塊是“洋務(wù)運(yùn)動(dòng)”。洋務(wù)運(yùn)動(dòng)是中國工業(yè)的最早階段，通過洋務(wù)運(yùn)動(dòng)，中國有了工業(yè)，不過大清還是完了。

改革開放后，假冒偽劣工業(yè)逐步發(fā)展，最新的叫法是山寨工業(yè)。山寨工業(yè)不是國內(nèi)的全部，但對(duì)中國發(fā)展成為世界第二大經(jīng)濟(jì)體的貢獻(xiàn)，感覺有相當(dāng)大的比例。

有個(gè)說法是，山寨讓中國得到了很大的利益，但中國只得到了饅頭，怎么做饅頭還是不知道。如果別人不做饅頭了，中國還是會(huì)餓死。

大家怎么看？

老鷹

有利有弊。不同階段利弊不同。利在短期，弊在長期。

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老鷹 發(fā)表于 2015-10-29 13:48
有利有弊。不同階段利弊不同。利在短期，弊在長期。

教材對(duì)洋務(wù)運(yùn)動(dòng)的評(píng)價(jià)是，沒有學(xué)習(xí)西方先進(jìn)的政治制度，光學(xué)習(xí)技術(shù)是不行的。
聯(lián)想到山寨工業(yè)，整個(gè)經(jīng)營一是偷，二是瞎干，能搞好工業(yè)嗎？

花弄影

張之洞為了調(diào)和清廷統(tǒng)治階級(jí)頑固派和改良派之間的矛盾，系統(tǒng)地總結(jié)了自己的洋務(wù)實(shí)踐，把前輩的思想歸納為“中學(xué)為體，西學(xué)為用”這樣一個(gè)口號(hào)。對(duì)照日本的明治維新，就能知道為何最后清王朝滅了，而日本卻強(qiáng)大了。意識(shí)形態(tài)不改，只學(xué)工業(yè)技術(shù)，行不通的。
對(duì)照現(xiàn)在，難道真的比洋務(wù)運(yùn)動(dòng)高明多少？思想保守有過之而無不及。

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可別拿制造業(yè)侮辱饅頭，饅頭可是諸葛亮做的，人家可是中國有史以來的大發(fā)明家，如果木牛流馬能傳到今天，連大頭愛因，可能都啥也不是

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